P5 in the Security Council

P5 in the Security Council
Helena S.

This year in the Security Council, the Permanent 5 (P5’s) have been the most active delegates due to the severity of the issues being discussed in the conference. Throughout the two and a half days of debate, there have been multiple veto threats that resulted in the need for a “P5 caucus” to come to an agreement to avoid full strikes of clauses. A P5 caucus is when a P5 member issues a veto threat and the five delegations go to a separate room with the co-chair to come to an agreement. IMUN Press interviewed these five delegates on their experience of representing their respective. 

 

The first delegate interviewed by IMUN Press was the delegate of Russian Federation, Aiden W., from the American School of Bucharest: 

  1. What role do you think the Russian Federation serves in the Security Council? 

“The Russian Federation serves as the opposition, along with China, to the Western block of France, the UK, and the USA and it speaks up for the non-NATO and the non-EU powers which do not have a strong of a voice in the Security Council.” 

  1. How did you prepare for this debate? 

“Lots of research, reading the news, a lot of documents, and some overviews on the non P5 members, because the P5 members are easier to prepare for. “ 

  1. What challenges did you face when representing a delegation like Russia that is currently involved in a controversial war? 

“Well, there is a moral boundary which, initially, I had when I took this role, but then I kind of had to overcome that and play the ‘model’ in Model United Nations. It’s fun and it’s interesting to read a lot of this propaganda.” 

 

IMUN Press also interviewed the delegate of the United States of America, Amongh M. from the International School of Stavanger Norway: 

  1. What role do you think the United States serves in the Security Council? 

“I think that the United States’ main purpose in the Security Council as they see it is to provide a sense of democracy within the world and to ensure that authoritarian states are limited in their actions. Additionally, that all members in the security council respect the UN Charter and limit their violations of human rights.” 

  1. How did you prepare for this debate? 

“There were some topics that interested me more than others. In particular, the Russian vs. Ukraine conflict is particularly interesting because the US has a very clear policy on that matter. The way I prepared was by looking at previous UN resolutions albeit that they were in the General Assembly which kind of gives you an idea of how things work in the real United Nations.” 

  1. What involvement has the US had with all the issues discussed in this committee? 

“The US has a very strong standpoint on all three points. In relation to the Russia vs. Ukraine conflict, the US is heavily involved in supporting Ukraine sovereignty and trying to limit Russia’s actions and the human rights violations that are taking place in Ukraine. Regarding the situation in Xinjiang, the US has a similar policy. We consider what is happening in China’s autonomous region to be a genocide and we are trying to contribute to an optimal resolution of the situation, although China´s veto power makes this proposition difficult.” 

 

IMUN Press also interviewed Stefan B. from the delegation of France. Stefan is at IMUN from the American School of Madrid:  

  1. What role do you think France serves in the Security Council? 

“Well, to be quite frank, I believe France is one of the lesser important P5 nations. However, as a P5 nation has great influence over a topic. As the representative of France, I think I’ve been very active in the debate and ensuring that the conflict between Russia and Ukraine is resolved peacefully while still ensuring that Russia does not go unpunished for their invasive crime and as well as the second topic which was talking about the Uyghurs in China is to ensure that the actions taken by China are recognized as a genocide.” 

  1. How did you prepare for this debate? 

“Well, there are a lot of steps that you can take in order to prepare for the debate. Number one, you can do a lot of research and make sure you have your notes formatted. I think that’s very important. Number two, you can prepare speeches, counterarguments, look at different views on the topic in order to ensure that you are analyzing from the best possible perspective. I believe that the most important part is actually to improvise your speeches because I think when you really get into the heat of the debate that’s when you have the most fun and you can really enjoy IMUN and you can really have a fruitful debate.” 

  1. What are the opposing points of view that France will have or has had to debate? 

“The second topic was about the Uyghurs in China. The delegate of China obviously does not want to recognize the actions taken by China as a genocide and defends that there is absolutely nothing wrong going on in the area. There is strong evidence to the contrary, that it’s systematic rape and torture. So, the delegate believes that that would be the action that the delegate goes against.” 

 

IMUN Press also spoke to the delegate of the People’s Republic of China, Kekeli B, from Carlucci American School of Lisbon: 

  1. What role do you think the People’s Republic China serves in the Security Council? 

“As part of the permanent 5 members of the Security Council, the PRC´s role is to provide a different point of view, given that three fifths of the Security Council’s P5 are countries that have governments that are set up with more western ideals.” 

  1. How did you prepare for this debate? 

“A lot of research. Just reading as much as I could, getting as much information as I can and then finally just trying to understand the PRC´s position on the issues being discussed.” 

  1. What challenges did you face when representing a delegation that is being accused of committing genocide and violating human rights? 

“I think the hardest challenge is separating myself and my own opinions from what I have to express while representing the PRC.I have been defending points I personally disagree with so much and it’s difficult to always be like ‘oh yeah there’s nothing happening it’s all western propaganda etc. etc.’  even though I know due to all the evidence that there are really atrocities happening. It´s a struggle. “ 

 

The last delegation interviewed by IMUN Press was the delegate of the United Kingdom, Pedro R. from the German School Lisbon: 

  1. What role do you think the United Kingdom serves in the Security Council? 

“I believe that, along with France and The United States, the UK represents true democracy. The United Kingdom’s path toward democracy started 800 years ago. We intend to continue to defend and protect the interests and values of democratic nations.” 

  1. How did you prepare for this debate? 

“I did a lot of research online especially. I also read some books on English politics to get some historical context. I also practiced the speech and also wrote what I planned to say during the sessions.” 

  1. What do you think differentiates the United Kingdom from the remaining P5 when discussing these issues? 

“The United Kingdom has a unique approach to problems. It focuses mainly on the status quo while prioritizing human rights and democratic values. In contrast to the United States, the US has a much more of a hands-on approach while the UK tends to stick more with what’s been established to be true and tries to, regardless of the situation, uphold democratic values.”